Joined: Jun 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 86 Location: Rose Prarrie BC Karma: 0
Re: gaining permission on new ground « Result #1 Today at 12:36am »
Ya I found it works best t just go intraduce your self and bs with them for a bit and let them get a feel for ya. once you get to know them alittle most are more than willing to let you on thier land. Be more respectful of their land than you would be of your own and you wont have problems keepin permsion iether.
Hello I also have made a egg base, I have my own hens and took some eggs that never hatched and put them in a gallon jar, then buried it for about a month or so took it out added some supreme solution that I bought from night owl lure and also added some glycerin. I caught 3 fisher and a coon on this mix. to bad I had to let the fisher go. They were caught in early fox season hear in Maine
Re: Weapon of choice « Result #8 Yesterday at 8:26pm »
There is no better feeling than hunting deer with a home built flintlock rifle. I've built five of them now and have taken deer with each. My favorite is a .54 caliber fullstock Lancaster style. I can clover leaf shots at 50 yards all day long with that gun and have made clean kills out past 100 with it. Nothing like a flintlock and a fresh tracking snow in late December/ early January.
I use liver in my bobcat lure. I grind it up and rot it down into a liquid. Works great. I've caught cats in PA, WV, and NY with it. Usually use deer liver. Fresh liver works good as a predator bait too. the bloodier the better.
Here is a pic of my son age 11 with his first coon. this was our first year trapping and he was the first to put fir in the shed. my friend and trapping partner is the one who got us into this and was just as proud as I was maybe even more. Blake picked the location and set the trap all on his Own.
Joined: Aug 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 19 Location: Sauk Co. WI Karma: 0
Re: Weapon of choice « Result #14 Yesterday at 5:37pm »
dang. yup forgot shotgun. and atl-atl too, lol, are you kiddin me. good for who ever is good enough to use on ethically.
fuzz- always filling my freezer here too. In my part of WI, you can shoot as many deer as you want. well like 4 a day or something like that. nothing compares to tenderlions and onions!!!
oh ya forgot this last time. Hoyt HavocTec Trophy Ridge Sight NAP Rest Trophy Ridge Stabalizer Zebra String Gold Tip Velocity Pro Rage
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Re: frogs « Result #17 Yesterday at 1:46am »
that's what i've been doin and all frog heads are always gone the next day. that's what got me to thinkin bout a frog bait. now that i think about it, those are being gobbled up fresh, so just fresh frozen heads may be the best way to use em.
a few more pics « Result #21 on Sept 8, 2010, 8:21pm »
hope this comes through, a nice coon and some of my catch. I caught 3 coon,27rats,3 ,fisher, I also had to let three fisher go because here in Maine if caught in the early fox season we have to release them. 6 beaver,2 mink and 1 otter
This is a pic of my first otter I caught wile beaver trapping this past season. this season coming will make my 3rd yr at it. still a green horn and learning every day and absolutely loving it. My 14 yr old son comes along from time to time as-well.
Re: TRENCH SET « Result #26 on Sept 7, 2010, 9:00pm »
depending on the angle of the hole, usually 9 back and centered if you dig your trench like a V. if i see tracks at the end of the trench another tap can be bedded or a blind set. sometimes coyotes will not want to work a big showie set like this.
Re: First Bobcat but how do you post pics? « Result #27 on Sept 7, 2010, 8:28pm »
Usually you need to get a photobucket account that will host your pics and then come here and make your post. If you can email me your pics I will post them for you?!
Re: TRENCH SET « Result #30 on Sept 7, 2010, 7:42pm »
i make a few a year. the only thing i do diffrent is i make mine bigger. in certain locations. i will go up to a 8in hole and the trench will be 16-24 in long. this is mostly for fox but it should take a coyote. i also like to make them into a little hill. just at the base.
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Re: Weapon of choice « Result #32 on Sept 7, 2010, 4:09pm »
My Main weapon of choice would have to be my Compound Bow (Diamond Black Ice Flx) Up until the start of rifle season here in missouri then i pick up my Marlin 30-30. Ernie dont for get atl-atl! In missouri this year their allowing Deer to be taken during the rifle portion with an atl-atl.
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Re: Weapon of choice « Result #37 on Sept 7, 2010, 12:13am »
Come on now it is hard to hit a deer at 500yards lol. I am sure bows are awsome to hunt with and I have one and enjoy shootin it but have never hunted with it. For me big game huntin is about fillin my freezer with meat to feed my family threw the winter. Once the moose and limit of deer are in the freezer it is time to look for an elk and have some fun shootin ducks/geese and grouse, but till the freazer is full it is all business as far as what weapon I need in the field.
Re: gaining permission on new ground « Result #39 on Sept 6, 2010, 11:37pm »
Here is a quote from somebody on the subject that may help:
Preparing to get Permission to Trap on Private Land
Getting permission to trap on private land is not really a very difficult thing to achieve. Because many of the landowners have been taken advantage of in the past, they are now posting their ground to public trapping and or hunting. But with a proper approach, permission can usually be attained which can lead to a lasting relationship between you and the landowner now and in the future. This also avoids trespassing and possibly fines. Each and every year property is sold and new landowners have come into the picture.
One of the very first steps is to find out who owns the property that you would like to trap on. This can be done usually at the county seat and by purchasing a plat map book of the area you want to trap. You will then achieve the property owner’s name, usually the property lines, plus you then know who owns the neighboring properties. This is very important information and can lead you to gain more property in which you have permission to trap on.
Contact your local DNR or any other place that can supply you with a topographic map of the area you are trying to get permission to trap. If you are unfamiliar with topographic maps, it would be in your best interest to take the time to learn how to read one as this will enhance how you present yourself to the property owner. Study the map and have a very good idea where that property is located on the map. You do not want to show up at the property owner’s house and not know where it’s at on the map. Property lines are another story, and will hopefully be shown to you by the property owner.
Something else to have with you is either a business card with your information printed on it or have it hand printed on a piece of paper with all your information. This should include your full name, address, phone number, vehicle description and license number. If you have more than one vehicle, list it as well.
A small notebook with a page devoted to each property you wish to gain access to for trapping purposes is very desirable. Before you approach the property owner, have as much of their information already written down in your notebook. Any specific questions that you have about the property should also be written down, which may include, but not limited to, as follows; Where am I allowed to park? Can I drive on un-gated roads? Do you have any restrictions that you want me to follow? Remember, it is their land, let them tell you what you can and cannot do. At the bottom of the said page, have a place for the property owner’s signature and your signature as well; this will be sort of an informal contract stating each other’s intentions and permissions. Now is the time to set the boundaries, not after a problem occurs.
How you present yourself to the property owner has a lot to do with gaining permission to trap on their property. Do not show up at their door looking like you have been living like a troll under a bridge for years and just crawled out. Be professional. Show up at their place clean and up kept. Dress like you would be going to a job interview, not a suit and tie, but a good pair of jeans and nice shirt will do.
Be polite and respectful. Politeness goes a long way. Address them as Mr. or Mrs. if they have such a title. If you have known them for a long time then a first name basis might be a good way to go but for the most part keep it professional.
Be prepared for rejection. Some property owners, no matter how hard you try, will not give permission to access their property. Accept it and move on. Thank them for their time and ask if they should decide to change their mind, that they would consider giving you a call. Sometimes it is as simple as that.
Following these simple common sense guidelines will hopefully help you gain permission for trapping on private land.
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I have been in the position of land owner more than once.
I can tell you a couple of things. #1, you want to hunt my land, you come to me. Don't expect me to sit down and spend MY time reading YOUR letter so YOU can come hunt on MY land. I will not be inconvenienced to give you permission.
#2, Don't call and leave me a message to call you and give you permission.
#3, come to me at my home, in my field, in my pasture, wherever I can be found and ask face to face. No need to dress in your sunday best, but be respectful. Don't call me sir, but be respectful. I am the one doing YOU a favor allowing you on my land.
#4, don't tell me how damaging coyotes or beaver or whatever can be to my land, I have been farming this land for enough years I know. Don't insult my intelligence. I will either give permission or I will not. Talking me into it by telling me how bad these animals are will not help.
#5, Bring traps along to show what you use in case the owner is curious. Ask the owner if there is any place they don't want you, or any style of trap they don't want you to use IE: Snares. Then respect that. Don't tell them how great you are and how good snares are, just respect that and go with their wishes.
Just my opinion as a landowner. If you want to be on my land, come ask me. Don't send me a letter and expect me to spend my time reading it. Don't give me a resume, I realy don't care. Don't stick a note in my door and expect me to call you. I am busy and my time is worth a lot to me, so don't expect me to go out of my way to give you a favor of permission.
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Re: Weapon of choice « Result #41 on Sept 6, 2010, 10:10pm »
i prefer the compound bow, it feels more rewarding and you have to be close to the deer unlike shooting a deer 500+ yards away with a rifle, sorry to those who prefer rifle.
Re: Weapon of choice « Result #42 on Sept 6, 2010, 10:06pm »
Ernie I agree with ya. Bowhunting is the way I'd hunt them if I had lots of time for shooting practice, scouting, setting up stands, and actual time spent on stand. With bowhunting you get a chance to hunt deer before they become spooked by gun season and they are still using their trails and acting normal. You also get a heightened sense of accomplishment when you connect with a bow over a gun.
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Re: Weapon of choice « Result #45 on Sept 6, 2010, 9:56pm »
For me it is definitly bow season. I think that nothing compares to being so in tune with the woods and all it has to offer us. I love being able to get so personal with everything out there. Also it brings a whole set of challenges and obstacles one must overcome to be successful. I thoroghly relish putting everything that I have learned, in and about the wild, to work in outsmartin' them suckers. P.S. Success for me isn't measured by filling my freezer, backstraps are just the bonus.
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Weapon of choice « Result #46 on Sept 6, 2010, 9:47pm »
Deer season is around the corner for most of us. I've noticed the leaves beginning to change and the nights getting a bit cooler. I just can't wait. Fall and Winter are by far my favorite seasons of the year.
Let me know what you like to use when you hit the woods and maybe why you prefer that. Sorry if i missed any other options.
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gaining permission on new ground « Result #48 on Sept 6, 2010, 9:28pm »
Would anyone have any insite on asking neighboring landowners for permission to trap. i struggle with gaining enough confidence to actually ask anyone.
also thought tips on proper edicatte would be great too.
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Re: something interesting today scouting « Result #50 on Sept 6, 2010, 9:17pm »
i guess that makes some sense. we dont see much for fox scat anymore over here. we got coyotes up the ying yang. i think i will go back and collect it for later use.
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